#32 Healing Body and Soul: A Deep Dive into Metaphysical Anatomy with Evette Rose and Catherine

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It has a massive plot twist.

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Are you ready?

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The level of detail that you explain it in, it makes such such sense that

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I don't think there's gonna be a single person watching this that isn't

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thinking, oh yeah, I can see that.

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I was so stuck in such an unresourceful place, so helpless.

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I felt so powerless, and it was because if I lacked knowledge, I lacked awareness.

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I was subconsciously punishing my body for causing me to feel feelings

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that I didn't understand, and I didn't know how to deal with it.

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So many people wanna do it all by themselves, and when you have to

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go and deal with your dark, dark shadow by yourself, your chances of

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sabotaging it is incredibly high.

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My own breakthrough was that I was avoiding the past.

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I based my entire life living in fear that it will happen again.

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People are addicted to a high paced lifestyle.

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Why?

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We are addicted to the cortisol.

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We are addicted to the adrenaline.

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I feel powerless to my emotions.

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That's why a lot of people can't meditate.

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Yeah.

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Because then they feel, because when that chatter stops, when all the chaos

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stops, when all the drama stops, we can't feel, I didn't realize consciously

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that I was designing something that wouldn't make you relive trauma with,

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well, uh, you don't need to know the root causes to heal, you know, fears,

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phobias, you know, emotional trauma.

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We work with pain, we work with addictions, I think it's fundamentally

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different to so many different other techniques and so, so important.

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I am so happy to introduce a new guest to my podcast today, Evette Rose.

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Now Evette is an author of 19 books.

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Yes, you heard that right?

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One nine.

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Quite incredible.

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Uh, she's a personal development speaker, event host, workshop

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facilitator, and she's dedicated her life to giving individuals all the help

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they need on their healing journeys.

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She's the founder of the Metaphysical Anatomy Healing Technique, which

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we're gonna learn lots about today.

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A transformational approach that empowers people to resolve past traumas and

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embrace successful and fulfilling lives.

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Through her compassion, wisdom, natural healing abilities, Evette has

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become a trusted source of support and transformation for individuals seeking

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a profound healing and personal growth.

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Now, I first came across you, Evette, a long while ago, and this is a

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very well used book, this big book.

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You would not believe how much I carry this around for me.

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And for those of you that haven't got this book yet, you will by the

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end of the interview, metaphysical anatomy, your body is talking.

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Are you listening?

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And we are gonna be finding out a lot more about this today.

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But Evette, first and foremost, very big welcome to my podcast.

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Uh, how are you doing today?

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Thank you so much for inviting me first, and thank you for the warm

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introduction and welcome to everyone who's also listening here with us.

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Thank you for your love, your time, and your energy, and I'm

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doing actually really great today.

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Today is Monday and I love Mondays.

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I love the start of the energy of the week, you know, the anticipation

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of getting into projects.

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So today I am feeling very excited, so I'm glad that we chose this

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day just energetically for me as well to really dive into this

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wonderful time with everyone here.

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So I'm so excited.

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I can feel the energy, I can feel it.

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It's amazing.

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I just wanted to say that today's episode is sponsored by

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ASEA Redox signaling molecules.

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Plus, there's a huge other product range for us.

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Um, but why did I start taking ASEA and why is it now an integral

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part of something that my whole family, both four-legged and

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two-legged take every single day?

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Plus also something that all the clients I work with, again,

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four-legged and two-legged, it's number one on my priority list.

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Well, part of what I do, what I'm passionate about is understanding the

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challenges that are affecting each and every one of us in today's modern living.

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Um, the more you know, the more sometimes you wish you didn't know,

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but the pollution in the air, in the water, in the food, um, the

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control of our minds, the propaganda.

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But one of the things that we can do is take back

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responsibility for our own health.

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Now, every single cell of our body, whether we're an animal, whether we're

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one of the dogs in the backgrounds or one of my plants, contain

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these redox signaling molecules.

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And cellular health and cellular communication is absolutely key.

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Whether you want to get your body back in balance, whether you want to reverse

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the aging process, whether you want to address any particular challenges that

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you've got physically, emotionally.

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It all starts with healthy cells.

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If your liver cells are healthy, your liver's healthy.

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If your brain cells are healthy, your brain's healthy.

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But just like a mobile phone, most of us have got mobile phones that we.

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We use on a routine basis now, but that mobile phone, regardless of

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whether you've got the latest model, is completely useless without a signal.

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So what does this technology do?

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areas of concern, whether you want your skin to look better, whether you've

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got cellulite, whether you've got an area that's causing you a challenge.

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The liquid is something you drink each and every day to top up what

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should be in your cells anyway.

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But when our bodies are stressed, disease challenged, or as we

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age, we make less of them.

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My sleep's better, my energy levels are better, my mood's

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better, my mobility's better.

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If you wanna find out more, the details are below.

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But I'm so grateful that this came into my life and I'm so grateful

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I can share it with others.

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I hope you love it as much as I do.

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Let me know.

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So let's start off, because we haven't had you on the podcast before yet.

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Uh, can you just give an introduction as to how did you get into this healing

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journey and helping others along theirs?

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I would love to because it has a massive plot twist.

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Are you ready?

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So, I started out as a child where I wanted to be a lawyer.

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I wanted to be a crime scene investigator.

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I loved the mystery of the body and understanding and looking for

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symptoms and signs and, you know, how do you put things together?

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Why did this happen?

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You know, what's a chronological order for someone's behavior By doing that,

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you know, I really was very interested in understanding the psychology, but

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from a more different perspective, where I wanted to help people who were

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victims of abuse, victims of violence, victims of, you know, sexual abuse

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and all this type of things, and.

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What was interesting, what, at the time, what I didn't realize was that this was

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a part of me, this was my inner child that was actually seeking my own justice.

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I was seeking my own answers because of what had happened to me.

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So my history, just in brief, you know, it also involved a lot of violence.

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There was a lot of sexual assault, and my dad was, to put it in short, he

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was a medically diagnosed sociopath.

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He was a drug addict.

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He was a very volatile person, and man who could, emotionally and psychologically

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not rationalize the way as we as average people would like, something goes wrong.

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And I'm like, you don't feel bad about it.

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My dad felt nothing.

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So for me, it, it baffled me to understand as someone who's meant to be a role

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model, How are we mismatching each other in mirroring, like where, you know, my

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mom's the peacekeeper, she was the one that just tried to hold it all together.

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And I think I'm, I'm saying because of her, you know, her influence, her

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calmness, her love, very spiritual person, but the typical empath that

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attracted the narcissist, right?

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So this is the perfect setup and I'm growing up on this platform.

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So this was actually where my life really wanted to deep down, pull

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me into, was to become the voice for others who couldn't speak.

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And I think subconsciously through that, I wanted to speak through myself

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in a way that made me feel safe, in a way that made me feel worthy because

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my worthiness was a really big problem for me that helped me back so, You

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know, as we do as empaths, you know, we live our life and dreams through other

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people by wanting to sincerely help.

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But we get lost in that too.

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That's kind of like where my, my journey took me.

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And so I actually studied, I studied my, my L l B a bit and I started

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the investigator, you know, private investigator, um, the crime scene

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investigator, um, studies as well until one day when I was in my early

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twenties, I was still in South Africa.

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Right.

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So I'm from South Africa and grew up in Namibia, but moved back to South Africa.

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Which was tough, you know, I was, I'm pulled into a world where there's

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no, where racism doesn't exist and now suddenly, you know, there's

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this black and white neighborhoods we can't talk to each other.

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And I'm like, well, my neighbor in South Africa, we were making mud cakes just

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last week and now I'm in a country where I can't ride on my bicycle to school.

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Like what is this?

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You know?

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So for me, it took me back a lot of few steps as well.

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And you know, with Psychol, I had to go see psychologist.

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I couldn't adapt to this change.

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So this is where I got fell in love with psychology.

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I'm like, wow, look at these psychologists and you know, this is really interesting

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how people are helping each other and.

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I went to a hospital once, a, a friend that was living next door

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was in a very severe car accident.

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No one was answering.

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So me and a few other people went together and supported him in this,

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uh, south African public hospital.

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I mean, you walk in and you just have all these people just lying

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there cuz there's not enough beds, it's a government hospital.

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And they were not doing well at that point.

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And someone just came in with a, with an emergency patient with a

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wheelchair, just literally rolled in the wheelchair and said, puncture

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in the throat, help need help now.

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And we're all standing in one room where five people are

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being treated by two doctors.

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And this wheelchair stopped right in front of me and this guy looked at me

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and he rolled back and he was gone.

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And I sat there and it hit me.

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It hit me so hard, you know, this is someone's son, husband.

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Um, you know, it, it ended up being, there was a dispute

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between the husband and the wife.

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She thought he was cheating, so she stabbed him with the, with

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the wire in the neck, and it hit the, one of the main arteries.

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So you couldn't see the damage.

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The damage was internal, and I'm just like, this is what I would have to look at

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if I really wanna become what I'm doing.

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And the reality, the true reality hit me of what I was studying

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for, what I was trying to, you know, grapple with and deal with.

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And I realized that I don't have the heart.

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To do that.

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I don't have the heart to see this.

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I would be an absolute emotional mess, and I'm thankful not for this

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person who that happened to, but this moment because it made me realize I

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was stepping into the wrong direction.

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So I stayed in business, um, studies, and I went to Australia, and long

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story short, again, at 23, I just had absolutely enough my life was destructive.

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I was, you know, abusing alcohol and cigarettes and so many other destructive

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ways of exercise vigorously to just get the energy and the anxiety out.

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I had a lot of, you know, um, psychological disorders and stress,

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and my trauma was coming out in such distorted ways because it

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was channeled in these studies.

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It was channeling, you know, the release of my anger and everything

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was coming through in these studies by seeing it as a solution.

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Right.

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Subconscious solution.

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Yeah.

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And now I didn't have that anymore and boom, that cut when I realized.

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Something has to give.

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There's something going on that I need to look at.

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So I hit a crossroad where I decided this was gonna be it.

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I was gonna end my life when I was 23.

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And I called my boss five o'clock in the morning, left the voice message,

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handover all my projects to her, and we gave all my passwords, and that was it.

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And I waited for my partner to go to work, said I was sick, and I Googled

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how to end my life painlessly.

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But what was interesting, what struck me is a message for the first time

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in my life came forward so strong.

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It was not an, I wouldn't say clear ent, but it felt like a voice.

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But it wasn't a voice, and it didn't feel clear either, because I have

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had clear orient moments now, and I realize now, back then, that

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wasn't really fully what it was.

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But someone said, you're asking the wrong question.

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How about how to be happy?

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I kid you not.

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It was so simple.

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How to be happy.

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And I typed it in.

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And now remember I was raised Christian, I was raised with a lot of, you know that

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God will punish you if you don't do this.

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God hates people who you know causes sin.

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You are born with sense of, I'm washed in all this shame and

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all this God fear-based beliefs.

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And now I'm seeing Doreen Virtue.

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I'm seeing Neil Donald Walsh.

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I'm seeing crystals.

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And I'm like, you know, so I went from being a Christian to becoming an atheist

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where I had, and I wrote about this in my autobiography, you know, where I'm

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like, F you God, you know, I hate you.

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You know all this.

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Why did you allow all of this?

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You know, as a 13 year old, I'm like, what are you?

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And so it was a very hateful relationship that I had with the spiritual side.

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And now I'm confronted with having to step back into something that

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I absolutely hated that failed me, but I didn't understand it, of

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course, as well as what I needed to.

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So I took a deep breath.

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And then the message came where I was like, screw this.

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You know, this is nonsense.

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What is this?

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And I was very, you know, I was very defensive in that moment.

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But the message came again and it's like, well, do you have a better option?

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Look what you're doing.

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Wow.

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And I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna put my pride

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where it needs to be, which is in the back seat, and I'm going to just

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have to see where does this take me?

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Because deep down, I didn't want to go.

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I didn't.

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But I was coming from, I was so stuck in such an unresourceful place,

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so helpless, I felt so powerless.

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And it was because if I lacked knowledge, I lacked awareness.

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I just knew I was in so much pain and I knew something needed to

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happen, but I didn't know why.

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And I always say awareness of a problems a problem have solved.

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Because when you have awareness of a problem, then you at least can start

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looking what solutions to apply.

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I wasn't even there yet.

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Right.

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I was at the point of building the awareness.

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Yeah.

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And so, Yeah.

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And so that's where I just dived into this.

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So three months later, long story short, again, three months later I'm

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into Crystals, you know, healing work, energy work, and I'm seeing the changes

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and I'm like, whoa, this is amazing.

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And I quit my office job.

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I partnered up with someone else.

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We started a company with work that I designed and brought together and

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worked based on what I felt worked for me, because everything that we

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use in life has an expiration date.

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And you know, it's kind of like, and it's because you grow, because every

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tool and technique out there serves a purpose and they are fundamentally

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needed and important, and it helps us to support us as, as stepping stones.

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So I, I hit these stepping stones in these walls as well, and that's

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why I designed my own process where it can take me a step further to

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where I personally want it to be.

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And it worked.

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Absolutely worked.

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And so then, you know, put everything on YouTube and then the, the work went viral.

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And so people ask me, which I know you're probably gonna ask me as

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well, so what was so different or great about what you were doing?

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Yeah, so the thing is, I, I, I went to, and, and this is where the, the big plot

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twist also came in my journey because I, I realized what the uniqueness was of it.

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I didn't realize consciously that I was designing something that wouldn't make you

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relive trauma with, well, uh, you don't need to know the root causes to heal.

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If you want to know the root causes, then you can jump into this.

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And there's so many other free references and resources that I have.

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But, and you didn't need to know memories of what happened because some, I, I

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remember a lot of things very clearly.

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Unfortunately, a lot of the abuse parts, but there's also other

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parts that I don't remember and.

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I'm sitting there and I'm, and I'm, and I'm looking at the psychologist and

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lady that I was working with as a child.

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She's like, well, if you don't really remember what happened, then that's okay.

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Well we can talk about it and stuff.

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And I'm like, well, what's the point?

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You know?

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So, okay.

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I had such an attachment to needing to know what happened in order to

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heal it, but I realized that that is what helped my greatest pain in place.

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Sometimes we just have to let go of something that we always can dive

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deep into, because if we have what's called implicit memories, explicit

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memory, sorry, that's when the brain, your left side goes, the communication

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lies, shuts down because of trauma.

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And then we don't have direct access back to the memory.

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But your environment can trigger the biochemical memory and response

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of those emotions, and it comes back and you have anxiety, you

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have depression, you have heart palpitations, and you have no idea why.

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Because we can't recall the memory.

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So what do we do with these people?

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Did you just say good luck?

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No, because I was one of them.

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And so this is why I started to realize in my process and my modality, that

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emotions is very important to focus on.

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Because memories by the fifth time that we try to go back to a memory,

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the 50% of its validity has changed.

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Because every time the state of mind that you are in and the way that you

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recall the memory and then the way that you file back the memory when

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you're done, this constantly shifts and changes and ads, assumptions and

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flashes and other aspects to this memory.

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So the memory actually keeps changing.

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I think that's a really important point, Evette, for people to realize

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that, you know, this is that one of the things that I just think is so powerful,

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there's so much about your technique, that the fact that you don't have to go

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back there and relive it, I think is.

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Fundamentally different to so many different other techniques.

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And so, so important for the, for part of the reasons you said, but also

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about, one of the things I love that you talk about a lot is the completion

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of the trauma and the different, the ways that you know, animals, you

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will see, shake and then shake it off, shiver and then shake it off.

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Whereas we don't see that in the humans.

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Can you talk us through how significant that is in your technique?

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That is tremendous.

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That's actually really super important.

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Now, what's great about the technique is that we don't have to shake.

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Yeah, but the body forgot how to complete its trauma process.

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And that's because we what, what, what, what would you do, right?

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If you, for example, had not a lot of experience with healing

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work or anything like that, or how to assist a traumatized person.

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I mean, even the emergency response systems.

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I, I, I, I hit on their heads quite hard when I was teaching in Germany,

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and there was actually one person in there from this response team that

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was just quite interested in the work.

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And when he heard my theory and reported it back, they started to change how they

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deal and respond to traumatized victims.

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Because firstly, what would you do if you see someone hyperventilating?

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We panic.

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Yes.

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Oh, oh, goodness.

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You know, what do we do?

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Get a blanket.

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Breathe.

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Breathe.

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You know, and it's like, lie down, lie down.

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You interfere with the process.

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Oh my God.

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That, that locks in the process because the person now doesn't feel safe.

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Mm.

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Your body will only regulate a traumatic event and it feels safe.

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But it's the how it reaches the point of safety that is fundamentally important.

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So if you wanna be part of someone's solution, if someone hyperventilates,

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and I'm sure anyone that suffers some anxiety or panic attacks, which I did,

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and what I found works for me is if you put your shoulders back and you

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look up at the roof and you just open your mouth a little bit and breathe.

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Because what happens is when you hyperventilate the body goes,

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instead of fake hypoxia, it thinks that it can't breathe.

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Yeah.

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And when the body thinks that it can breathe, it gets stressed

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even more because now it's, now it's faced with a threat that it

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doesn't like because it's the body.

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So job to keep you alive.

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If you can't breathe, you're gonna die.

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Mm-hmm.

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And the body knows that.

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So now the body's gonna go into even more hyperactive mode

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trying to get you out of it.

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But if you just do a simple task like that and you and the body can

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feel I'm breathing, wait, wait, wait.

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I'm okay.

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There's someone next to me that is calm, that can give me calm advice.

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That compassionate with right.

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Dr.

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Robert Scarr and, uh, Dr.

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Dr.

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Robert Levine, they all talk about this, the compassionate witness,

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listen to the word compassionate.

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Not freaking out nut job, you know, support system that's

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panicking there with you.

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Same with someone in a car accident or that just witnessed a severe accident.

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What do they do?

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It's very often that they start screaming or they start to shake.

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And what do the support people do?

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Oh, let's put a blanket over you.

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The body goes cold and it's not because you're actually cold because of shock.

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The body's trying to induce the shake response so that the autonomic

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nervous system can shake, because that's how it regulates itself.

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But what do we do?

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We tranquilize, we put a blanket over, so we literally stop

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a natural healing response.

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And the moment when you interfere with the healing response, you have

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just added at least 10 to 15 years of psychological work for that person to

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get back to that trauma and to shift it.

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Wow.

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Right.

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So this is very, very important.

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If you don't know what to do, the best thing that you can do is just

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to stay eye level with someone.

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Neutralize your voice and keep it very calm as I'm speaking to you right now.

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You are in control.

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Everything is okay because if you are not panicking, the other person's

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gonna be like, well, it should be okay.

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Right.

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So a neutral voice actually has an effect on the hippocampus.

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That's our emotional brain, and it has a very soothing effect on the

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amygdala, which is our panic button.

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It's soothing.

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That's why it's almost, I call it like reading a bedtime

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story to a child voice, right?

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Because the amygdala has the maturity of a four-year-old.

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So it's important, like what would you do with the four-year-old child

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having a massive melano tantrum?

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Stay calm.

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It's the same for us, right?

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Same for us as adults.

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So I went to a lady that caused me to relive a trauma because

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that's how she shifts trauma.

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Well, that's great.

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You didn't tell me that.

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No one wants to relive sexual abuse.

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Yeah.

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Cuz that's what the session is about.

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And she had the same trauma and when she saw my response, which was

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very severe, and I, I'm not gonna go into it because I, I, this is not a

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trigger show, this is a healing show.

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But it was very bad and she couldn't get me out of it because

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she was so triggered by seeing me.

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And here we're both triggered and I called the taxi, I said, I need to go.

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And that's when I called a friend and I said, here's my, here's my technique.

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Talk me through it right now because I, I, I can't think straight.

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And she talked me through it and 10 minutes later I was

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regulated and I was back on track.

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Because the thing when you work with mats that we work with emotions.

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I don't care what the gory story is because a lot of people

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don't wanna go back to that.

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And that's okay.

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But what people can talk about is how do you feel in relationship to that?

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Now we're getting to it.

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Emotions are accurate.

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Emotions are, is what I would call the GPS of the soul.

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But we set up our lives to avoid emotions because we don't

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like to feel what we feel.

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We feel powerless in relation to what we're feeling.

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But what's frustrating for me is when we, for when I realized,

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you know, my own breakthrough was that I was avoiding the past.

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That doesn't exist anymore.

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But I based my entire life by coping strategies based on something

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that's not real, but living in fear that it will happen again.

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And I made my future decisions constantly.

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Every decision that you make in that state of fear is defining your fear.

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So you're building a fear-based future and most often making all the wrong

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decisions because it's not coming from a place of clarity and calmness where you

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can feel your way through it properly.

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Because if you can feel your emotions, your intuition's gonna be shut down.

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So how can you listen to your spirit guides?

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How can you listen to divine guidance?

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Period.

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People tell me I can't connect to my intuition.

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I'm like, that's nonsense.

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You absolutely can.

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What you can do is feel your emotions because that is what you haven't

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befriended and seen it as the tool source to, as an access point to

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resolve most of your problems.

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This is so powerful.

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Honestly, I'm, I'm, you know, I've been following your work for years,

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but this is so brilliant because so many people at the moment have air.

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With the world situation that's going on, people feeling control, not trusting.

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I'm not gonna go too much into it cuz we're on YouTube and it's very heavily

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censored, but you know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Comes in so many different ways.

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It comes in a personal level that people have experienced either in this lifetime

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ancestral trauma, which cover a lot of in your tr in your book, but it also

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is sort of this collective trauma.

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Um, when you said something really powerful about when you have the

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awareness of what some of the issues are, you are halfway there and a lot

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of people are waking up to thinking, wow, life isn't as I thought it was.

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I don't necessarily have controls over things I thought I'd do.

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And they're in this fear response and they're making decisions going

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forward based in that fear response.

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So your technique can be applied to all these different areas, can't it?

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Absolutely.

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So we work with, you know, fears, phobias, you know, emotional trauma.

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We work with pain, we work with addictions.

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We even go as far back as to, hence why I actually wrote this book.

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My latest research is actually in this book, you know,

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psychosomatics For for Children.

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It's another big book as you can see.

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Yeah.

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And what, what happens is we don't, I know that we have a biological

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platform that's already laid out for us.

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You know, I, I think over 400 predispositions and everything

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that's already p laid out.

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But, and that's before we even reach, you know, the, the

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developmental stages in the womb.

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Yeah.

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But now what happens is, on top of these, you know, characteristics

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and everything that's being built, your mother's experience,

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Plays a fundamentally big role.

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I, I spent almost an entire day on just that because we always thought

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that the placenta is a barrier between the mother and the child.

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It's not, it's absolutely not.

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Research has now blown that out of the water mothers who have

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cancer, that's, that gives birth to children with tumors and cancer.

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Like, you know, if, if it really was a barrier, then why is this

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happening in the first place?

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And so what scientists found, what I finally found as well, was that when you

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look at the protein cells, which is part of a much bigger part of a cell, but

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when you look at the specific protein section, these cells are responsible

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for, um, the, the health of the placenta.

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But these protein cells store and holds the mother's trauma.

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Wow.

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Did you know that?

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That is, that is a fun, that is huge.

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Because the placenta is what?

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It's the startup of your being.

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Yes.

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It's the startup.

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Of your being.

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And cortisol is poison.

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It's poisonous to a child because what happens is, I mean, a certain

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amount of cortisol is healthy.

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It helps with growth and nerve factor, all these things, but overproduction of

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it and, and staying it into long periods of time can actually damage the placenta.

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It can cause learning the, uh, brain dysfunction in children with

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learning problems, you know, lisping problems, um, organ failure problems.

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It can cause a lot of deformities, um, psychologically and even physically.

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So when they say that a pregnant mother should relax, People

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shouldn't, people don't take it as seriously as what they should.

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They don't, they don't seem to understand the impact of what can

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happen when the mother is pregnant.

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And I'm very conscious of that.

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I'm, I have my rituals of, you know, cleansing and energy healing for this one.

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And also when I had zah all these things, I'm very conscious of it because the more

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conscious we are of it, the more awareness we have of it, the more we can take the

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right steps to start to improve this.

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But some people are like, well, I didn't have the awareness when I was pregnant.

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Can I still change it?

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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And it's been shown in my research as well, again, and again and again,

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when mothers work on the womb trauma that they had with their children.

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It's tremendous.

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And you, even the men, you know, they can go back to the time when they were

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in their mother's womb and do the work and, and you know, regulate things and,

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you know, differentiate between what my mom is feeling and what I'm feeling.

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Her stress, her anxiety, her everything.

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So it's, it's absolutely amazing how deep this can go.

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And then coming back to emotions, one more thing I wanna add to

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this, that's very important.

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What people don't look at is our instinctive responses.

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Oh yeah, that's one of the male culprits.

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Why we don't heal.

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Why remember, emotions and instincts, fire together and whatever in the body

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fires together is gonna wire together, which means it formulates together as

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a memory cognitively and throughout the cellular memory of the body, and also the

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muscles that's dedicated to our instinct, the responses, and our nervous system,

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you know, that helps with communication.

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So when a subconscious memory is triggered, What is gonna happen, right?

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The memory's gonna come up.

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You're gonna feel all these emotions.

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So you have emotional responses and memories coming forward, whether you are

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aware of it or not, but you have instinct responses being triggered as well.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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So now, and yeah.

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So a lot of people just look at emotions.

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How do I feel?

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How do I feel?

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Well, I feel like hiding.

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Okay, well, let's, let's work on that.

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Well, the body's gonna go like, well, no, I, I need to

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keep my hiding predisposition.

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Sorry.

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Yeah.

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So the body's gonna stop.

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It's gonna sabotage you.

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And then people wonder why they don't get better.

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There's a way to address the, the, the reptilian mind, right?

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This is, this is our purity to responses.

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Now, when you look at the back of your head, there's a knob.

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So when you look at that knob, that's behi, that's right below it, that's

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the start of the reptilian brain.

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Everyone is about amygdala micala.

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Well that's great, but it's a later of development in terms of how

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it plays a relationship and role with the hippocampus and how it

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formulates memories together as well.

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But when you look at the evolutionary process, it started way back before

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anything else started, right?

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So it's one of the most hardwired processes and mechanisms

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that we have in the body.

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So when you look at, why don't I get better?

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Well, maybe we need to understand how are we addressing this part of you that's

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purely programmed to keep you alive?

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It's programmed to keep you alive.

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It doesn't care about falling in love, it doesn't care about money.

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It doesn't care about any of these things that we are trying to achieve in life.

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It just wants to stay alive.

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So if you're working on a trauma that is held in place because it, the body

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perceived a moment where you almost died and now you're trying to resolve it.

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Well, I'm sorry, I, I love a lot of things that are out there, but this,

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there's a lot of approaches that's just, that doesn't even touch on that.

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It doesn't touch it.

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So it might feel better in the moment, but it's not going to shift the

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actual trauma and allow this reptilian mind to understand and realize, I

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failed to overcome this trauma in the past, but I can be okay now.

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Right.

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So that's the difference between becoming resilient and becoming traumatized.

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Yeah.

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Is when you actually found a solution for the traumatic situation

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in that moment or shortly after.

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Hence why if you had access to the right thoughts or emotions, or you had

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a compassionate witness support you through that, your chances of feeling

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resilient in that moment, overcoming it, and for atilian mind to feel

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actually more confident in relationship to that traumatic event is higher.

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Then someone who felt like they completely collapsed.

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And people who, who struggle with the freeze response take to struggle

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a lot more with that as well.

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Right.

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Because it's like you just freeze.

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There's no looking for resources or anything, or trusting the support

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that might be there with you, or a, a compassionate witness, of course, would

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have a much higher chance of when you are a parent and your child runs to

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you, you're the compassionate witness.

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Mm-hmm.

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So that's, you know, it just gives you a really beautiful example of

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how it can help a child and how being a compassionate witness can help

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a person to regulate themselves.

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But so now coming back to instinct, the responses, this mind, this reptilian

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mind needs to understand that it's safe.

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So let go of this.

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So there's a bit of prepping, there's a bit of talking to it, there's a bit of

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connecting to it, but also dismantling the relationship that the emotions

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built with instinctive responses.

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Because, and I, I don't care who wants to debate with me on this, because

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with the thousands of people that I've worked with and the patterns and the

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algorithms that I've seen, the instinctive response is, is triggered first.

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Every single time.

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I don't care what you're doing, whether you're pouring a glass, you and you nearly

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dropped the glass, or whether you're sitting there and a friend tells you, I

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don't wanna be friends with you anymore.

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And like, oh, I feel really sad.

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I feel very emotional.

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And now you feel like you wanna go home, you wanna sit in your room,

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your instinctive response is fired off first because they are wired nonstop.

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They've even shown that the subconscious mind, which is also of course, deeply

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connected to our instinct responses and how the body wires and listens

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all the time, that even when you're in operating table, this happened in

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Australia where you know, things were said about a patient while she was

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absolutely knocked out full, full-blown surgery, and she could remember it.

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Don't mess with the body because it's a lot smarter than what we think.

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It's right.

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Yeah.

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People just can't tune into it, can they?

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So we've, I think of it, we've so many people, yeah.

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Live so disconnected from nature that they've lost or connection to cells.

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So most people can't even identify what foods agree with

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them and what food people don't.

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And you know, let alone said, if anything, well, that's pretty much

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a survival instinct, isn't it?

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Anyway.

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So how do you start that process of people reconnecting in to themselves,

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their intuition and their instincts?

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Firstly, we have to befriend our emotions.

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Yeah.

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And realize, because now what we have wired ourselves subconsciously with is

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that I feel powerless to my emotions.

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I feel helpless when I feel, I don't like to feel.

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That's why a lot of people can meditate.

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Yeah.

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Because then they feel, because when that chatter stops, when all the chaos stops,

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when all the drama stops, we can't feel.

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And what happens is people are addicted to a high paced lifestyle.

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Why?

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We are addicted to the cortisol.

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We are addicted to the adrenaline.

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Why?

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Because it gives us a high, you know, the, the blood flow vessels are wide open.

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We feel the rush pupils have dilated.

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The brain is thinking more clearly.

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So we actually start to associate anxiety and drama.

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With alertness and, and performing.

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Yeah.

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That's why a lot of people who procrastinate, who, you know,

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leave things to the last moment, and then they panic and it's,

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you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And then suddenly they get everything done and then they have a breakdown

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because they can't keep up that pace over a long period of time.

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Mm.

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Or we live our life in a way where we might work really hard, but we feel

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like we're doing actually okay, I'm exercising, I'm eating all right.

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But then suddenly these people come to me and they go like, Evette, but I, I,

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I, I suddenly started insomnia and now I have anxiety, and now I have depression.

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But my life actually feels really great.

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And that's because we've wired this path.

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Like if you look at the cornfield and you walk a path every day, You start to

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see that path because the path becomes so clear and you start walking through

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it much faster because you don't have things to clear out of the way The mind

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works the same when we, when we adapt to a certain behavioral pattern, like

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we get to the end result much faster, which could, which could now be the

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reward, but also then the anxiety.

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So with the faster we get to the reward, it's like, well

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now it's the, it's wearing off.

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The excitement's gone.

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Now I need to figure out something else.

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What else can I do?

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What else?

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Chaos.

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What other drama can I create?

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So over time, we subconsciously start to get addicted to this

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toxic way of life, right?

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All these, you know, fake false dophin releases and rewards is happening.

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Yeah.

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It's a, it's, it's a toxic, um, Way to exist.

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But then we also have the other flip side where we have people who would, you know,

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get stuck in behavioral patterns to avoid feeling certain emotions from the past.

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Right.

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So, because if, for example, if you look at a plant that has been in the desert

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and it hasn't had rain, it's about to die and you give it a drop of water.

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Wow.

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You know, it's like, because the contrast of in relation to what I've

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had all this time, which was the stress, and now there's becomes the relief,

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but the drop in reality is 5% Yes.

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Of what your true reality is.

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But in that moment, that drop feels like the 95%.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so we set up our lives to get back to that 95%.

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So we end up chasing something that is not even that important

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or that relevant because we are looking for that instant relief.

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And that's how we get addicted to that.

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And then we, you know, once the addiction is set in and the pathways are set

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in, it's much harder to break that.

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So we are dealing with conscious and subconscious addictions to either

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emotions, food lifestyles, coping mechanisms, and, and brain chemistry.

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So we're sitting with a lot of this drama right now and because of the complex

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frontal cortex that we have, cuz of the hippocampus and how everything is wired

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together, we can rationalize our way.

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Into knowing how something is unhealthy for us.

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But we can rationalize why it is good in that moment, right?

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So we are not as primal as what we used to be, where we can go

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like, well, but that's stupid.

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I'm gonna go back to where I was.

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Yes.

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It's almost like the complexity of what we have right now.

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As great as it is, as amazing as it is for our breakthroughs, which often is

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actually now becoming to our detrimental with all this AI stuff that's going on.

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And I'm like, well, we need to use this intellectual side that we have

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and and real common sense around it because we are literally just being led

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by what we want and how that instant gratification is gonna make us feel.

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So the first step is to befriend your emotions, because the biggest problem

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that we have right now, and that's why I love the book, the Body, you know,

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it's all about the body and feeling, is that we made a negative association.

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With the body, because when you feel trauma, how do you feel?

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It's terrible.

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Yeah.

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It's not a good feeling.

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And especially, it's a terrible feeling when you can't

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overcome the traumatic event.

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So now what do we do?

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Oh, this body is terrible.

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It's bad.

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You know what I did?

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I abused the hell out of my body.

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I had bulimia, I had anorexia.

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I was exercising because I was looking for that belief to the point where the doctor

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said, your muscles are falling apart.

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Y it, your, your tissue is deteriorating.

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You need to stop.

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Right?

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So, and I didn't stop, I didn't care.

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I'm just like, I just wanna get out of this feelings.

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So I, I went on the self-destructive path where I was subconsciously

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punishing my body for, causing me to feel feelings that I didn't understand

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and I didn't know how to deal with it.

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Firstly, what happens is, and I think when you feel something and you

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don't understand it, is be okay with not understanding, but feel hopeful

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that there are people out there who can help you to understand it.

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That's the good news.

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We're not as unresourceful as what we think we are.

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Now, shame plays also a very big role, you know, in relationship to asking

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for support because what is, first of all, your relationship with support?

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Do you feel comfortable asking for support?

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Were you shameful asking for support in the past?

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So many people wanna do it all by themselves, and when you have to

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go and deal with your dark shadow by yourself, your chances of

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sabotaging it is incredibly high.

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Yeah, it's very high.

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We, we sometimes need that compassionate witness that can help us.

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But meditation also firstly, is a wonderful source to help yourself.

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And, and that's why I, I, you know, I had to learn how to meditate

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and it took me quite a while.

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I hated meditating.

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I hated those, that voice and that, that, those feelings that came up.

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And I'm like, God, I don't know what to do with this.

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What is this?

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You know?

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And I'm like thinking of, oh, I'm gonna go have a glass of wine.

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I'm gonna go do something else.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Have a pizza or watch a gory movie or something that can get me out

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of it, or a funny movie, whatever.

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So we need to understand that if the bo, if you are in pain, your

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body is in pain, and the body can only support you with the tools and

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the permission that you give it to.

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Reason why is because what do we do when we see someone crying?

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Oh my God, here's a tissue.

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Oh my god.

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You know, when people do that.

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I just, I just, I just wanna hang my head because that's a trauma

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cycle trying to complete itself.

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The body's trying to regulate itself.

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And now if you shove a tissue in someone's face with as the much

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love and compassion as what you meant by that, you just disrupt it.

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The cycle.

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Now that person has to somehow find a way to come back and deal with that.

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Instead, ask the person, what do you need right now?

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Because the moment when they express what they need and there's a solution

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to it, that is how you become resilient, not by forced support.

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And we don't understand that.

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Secondly, when we cry as a child, maybe we were smacked or beaten

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up, I was smacked to the oblivion.

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You know, my dad was a very violent man and he didn't tolerate or understand a

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child that couldn't regulate himself.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, Now when you look at this, what does the body associate with crying?

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Shame.

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Trauma.

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Stress.

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How messed up is that?

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We associate trauma with the very thing that's meant to release trauma.

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That's why people say, well, Evette, well if you say that, then why is it that I'm

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always crying and I don't feel better?

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I'm like, well, does, do you feel safe crying?

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No.

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I'm like, well, there's your problem.

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There is your problem.

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You cry, but you still feel shame and stress, and the body can regulate

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itself because it has all these blocks that it can get through.

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Hyperventilating is another point.

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That's actually, it's a trauma cycle.

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Completing shaking is a trauma cycle completing.

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But look how we respond to these natural cycles actually completing themselves.

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The body doesn't feel safe.

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It's interrupted.

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Oh, I'm, I'm doing something that's made to release.

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Oh, oh, you're saying it's wrong.

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Oh, okay.

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Oh shit.

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What am I supposed to do now?

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Shut down and it stops.

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So what happens?

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The adrenaline, the cortisol, the memories, everything becomes boom.

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Locked into the cells.

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Locked into the muscle memory.

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And where does the cortisol in the body go now?

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Where pry helps to release all the pathways for releasing it?

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Yeah, it's just incredible.

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It is.

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So, you know, so many people have it have heard of, you know, Louise

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Hayes, emotional links to disease and things like this, but the level

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of detail that you explain it in, it makes such, such sense that I don't

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think there's gonna be a single person watching this that isn't thinking.

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Oh yeah, I can see that.

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I mean, do you find most people come to you because they've got a serious health

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issue to address or a serious trauma that's, you know, they can't move past?

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You know, that's a great question.

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I have all sorts of people coming.

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People with abundance blocks, people with business blocks, success, um, fears,

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uh, childhood trauma, anything from, you know, severe abuse to, you know,

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emotional neglect, abuse, or people that are just stuck with depression or anxiety.

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All of them with elements.

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Yeah, with pain addictions.

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So yeah, we, we, we do our best to tackle as, as much as we can, but also to

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remember that what's most important is to keep the focus on your quality of life.

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Because if your quality of life is healthy and good and your mental

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health is doing well, the body over time will regulate itself.

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Yeah.

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People don't understand that.

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Wow.

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Well, but you didn't, you didn't fix my, my stage four cancer.

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And I'm like, well, we, we need to look at how, how you got there.

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You know?

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Cuz people with that condition as an example, they

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normally, the happiest people.

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You always think, well, why is it happening to that person out

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of everyone that I can think of.

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And that's because they're not worthy of claiming their happiness.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So if your quality of life and your truest expression of claiming your

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happiness and feeling worthy of their happiness is, is not fully in aligned

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with the life that you're living, well, the problem is gonna stay stuck.

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That needs to be overcome, that needs to be addressed.

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When you look at arthritis, you know, always feeling like you have to pick

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between two sides and always feeling like the, the ham and the, in the

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middle of the sandwich, you know, trying to be the peacekeeper of everything.

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Well, screw it.

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Let people, let people fight the battles.

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Why are you getting involved?

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It's not your life contract.

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You know?

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Get your boundaries in line, you know, get yourself worth the line and

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your focus needs to come back to you.

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How can you heal if your focus is not with you?

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That's why empaths, they struggle with boundaries.

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They struggle with feeling people's feelings and their

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life is, is is a living misery.

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It's horrible.

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It's absolutely horrible.

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And I used to be an empath.

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I'm retired from that now because I have boundaries, but people don't

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realize that our, in our psychological boundaries, projects and translates

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into our energetic boundaries as well.

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Yes.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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You can read as much as you want about boundaries, but if you don't believe in

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that boundary, and if you don't practice it and express it with, with neutralness

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and feeling worthy of it, it's not going to express in your energetic feel.

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And anyone listening right now, I know that you have met someone,

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but you speak to them and you just know what you can and cannot say.

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You just know I'm not gonna ask this question.

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You know, I really wanna ask this bit, but I'm not gonna ask it.

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You can just feel the the barriers in a very polite way, but you can feel it and

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you almost guided by what you're sensing.

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This is a great example of someone who has a firm and

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healthy grip on their boundaries.

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It's such a massive, I I, my, my brain's just ticking over all of

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this information because you can pull so many examples of, of Oh yeah.

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Uh, of everyday lives and what people are going through and there's

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a lot of projection at the moment.

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I wanna give you an Evette example.

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Do you want give proper MIT example please?

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Okay, great.

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So let's go back to people who are empaths, right?

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So this, this is the best example because I relate to it really well

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because I used to be very much an empath.

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You know, I would see someone, and I'm sure all of you have had this,

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you see someone sitting there, their, their back is facing you.

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You can't see their face, but you just feel, oh, Yeah, you know, you feel heavy,

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you feel sad, you feel depressed, you feel a little bit, just something is not right.

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Maybe you start feeling anxious or depressed.

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Now what you most cases are picking up on, and because your boundaries, your,

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your space is in everyone else's space.

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And not deliberately.

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It's because we sense, we're always caring, we're always sensing, we're

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always feeling what is going on.

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And empaths tend to also have a lot of their boundaries overstep.

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So there's, there's, there's, uh, there's a mismatch in relationship to where

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does people's boundaries stop and start.

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Now you can sense that, and you can feel that, but there's

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nothing validating it to you.

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So how are you feeling it?

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This is now where the quantum field comes in and our electromagnetic

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fields communicating from our side to that person, because it's sensing, we

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don't realize it, but subconsciously we're always sensing what is going on?

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What are you doing?

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What, what, what, what, what?

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Why?

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Because if our boundaries are poor, we are going to subconsciously be

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in a state of defense all the time.

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Yeah.

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That's why impacts are also tired.

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That's why your adrenals are so tired.

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They're just gonna curl up into a pink blanket and just rest

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and fatigue and immune problems.

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And that's why we have gut health issues.

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That's now why we have autoimmune issues.

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Like we don't see how something so tiny could spiral.

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Right?

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So now what happens is also what, and we, we feed that information back

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to us through our nerve receptors, through our neurotransmitters

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and the synapsis as well.

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That's moving back and forth because they generate the electromagnetic

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field, which is needed to be able to intuitively communicate.

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Right.

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That's why you can communicate with, um, a piece of metal, but there's not a lot of,

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you can ask a specific questions maybe, but it's not gonna give you intelligent

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information in terms of your future.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Because there's no electrical feedback that's strong enough coming back to

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communicate with your electrical field.

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And so now when you look at that person and they.

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Feel bad, your information is communicating back and forth because

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electromagnetic fields have the capacity to manipulate and change atoms.

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Now, anyone who's a quantum physicist, you know, just take a deep breath

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because I'm not gonna even touch on them.

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I'm not gonna touch it.

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But in a very complex world, there's a way where these electromagnetic fields

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transmits your thoughts and feelings and what you're looking for, and is reading

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back that person's emotions and whatever it is, you know that's going on in their

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mind and heart, back to this field, into your atoms, and through these senses.

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We read that information by bringing up certain emotions, feelings, and

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thoughts and flashes so that we can relate to what we're feeling.

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That's how our intuition works, right?

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So, because empaths can feel so well, they are excellent readers,

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they are excellent psychics.

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They can feel they are brilliant with it.

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Yeah.

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That's why they say sometimes the most traumatized people are the best psychics.

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And it's actually true.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah, and I don't mean it in a bad way, it's just that they, they, the emotions,

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they're actually pretty good with it.

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But now of course, you have people who are very shut down because of

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their trauma and they will struggle.

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They most often struggle with their, with their intuition, sensing and

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seeing, and all these aspects.

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And so because of this boundary overlap that's not so strong, we tend to

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take on what they're feeling, right?

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We tend to take on what they're feeling, so their memories coming

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into our field changes our atoms, and we are reading that information.

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That's why it's important to do energetic clearance and space clearance to get

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this energy out of your atoms, because we don't wanna stay connected to that.

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But now, if you have good boundaries, you can still be connected and

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realize that person's feeling harmful, but your boundaries can

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actually propel and actually push out any negative memories from staying

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with you because it's not mine.

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It's not mine and your field translates that we don't understand and realize

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how incredibly intelligent this electromagnetic field is because not

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only is it a projection of us and our thoughts, it can handle commands.

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Yes.

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If you yourself understand the command, that's the difference.

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Brilliant.

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So, so I, I hope that helps.

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That's a, that's a really great example of how it works and you know how we can

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also feel all these things, but how your state of mind and your mental health can

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play a very good role, a potent role.

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Like when I travel and to this day when I travel, and especially if it's

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a long flight or it's long travels, I.

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The mo the moment, wherever I land that first day, I don't leave my hotel room.

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I don't leave my apartment or wherever it is that I'm staying.

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I don't want people around me.

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I don't wanna speak to people.

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I don't wanna interact with people.

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It's room service on the phone, and that's it.

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And the reason why is because when you are also chronically tired or you

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are over burnt out or exhausted, your boundaries are automatically affected.

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I notice that I get into spit spats with people when I travel and I'm adjusting.

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My energy field is adjusting to the place, into people.

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Of course, I plug myself into the grunt and I do my thing.

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But I can feel, because of the exhaustion, my boundaries are not as good.

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Yes.

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And I, and I inter, and I, and I, and I always attract people who push my buttons.

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And a lot of people who might know me, you know, I, I I have a filter.

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Yes.

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But I'm gonna let you know how I feel.

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So, and especially when I'm tired, I can sometimes be a little bit rude.

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I'm not perfect.

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I can be snappy, I can be sometimes a little bit over defensive, but it's

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because I feel psychologically exhausted.

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And that reflects also in my boundaries as well.

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It reflects in my energetic boundaries so people can sense that.

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Right.

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So, and people often respond to that as well.

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So it's not that they're be mad, you know, um, mean or bad people.

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They're just also responding to me.

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And so I go out the second day and then everything is perfectly fine.

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I've just, you know, I've been to 43 countries and I, I, you

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know, I, I, I'm an observer.

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I watch patterns that excludes cities.

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I think the other day threw out like 400 flight tickets.

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And, you know, that's between, you know, places here, here, here, there.

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And that, and I, the, the pattern is so obvious now that it's

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indisputable to me personally.

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To me personally.

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So just something that I wanna share to give you as an example also, that

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if you're tired, It adds to it, it just makes it worse when you are tired.

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Yeah.

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It's gonna really show up the areas where you need to sort of do the work more.

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So yeah, we hear so much about, um, you know, how we all attract

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our own reality about how, um, we've got to do the inner work.

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The greatest way we can be a change to the greater collective

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is to work on ourselves.

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And this makes such perfect sense.

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Why?

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Because if we're not doing that work ourselves and don't

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have our own boundaries in order, we can't possibly help.

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I wanna add to something what you said there that was so, that's

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so, so important, and I wanna say this to anyone listening that.

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Um, have been a victim of abuse and someone who is struggling

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when you sit there that, you know how we create our reality.

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There's so much truth in that.

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But something that I also wanna add as an example of how we as humans with lack

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of awareness is, is creating damage.

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Because even though we are creating our reality, I'm gonna give

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an example, I'm gonna do this.

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So sometimes when I talk to someone and suddenly this person just triggers me

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and they've done nothing wrong, nothing.

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And I felt like, I feel like I wanna snap at them.

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And when I look at them and I read the body and I'm like, and

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I'm, and I'm realizing, wow, I was about to reflect her mother.

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I was about to reflect this person's mother because that person was an

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emotional state where she felt vulnerable.

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She said something, and subconsciously she, the inner

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child, was expecting the mother to scream and shout at her right now.

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And that was about to pull that experience out in me, towards her.

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But because I had awareness and I realized, forget about

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the reading that I did, let's pretend that I couldn't do that.

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But if you have awareness and emotional intelligence to recognize

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that how I am about to respond is not in context with what is happening

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right now and to stop that, that is our responsibility as the responder.

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Yes.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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So was she about to create her reality based on her trauma?

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Absolutely.

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But did I stop it in its tracks?

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Yes, that's emotional intelligence.

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I can tell you, and this is why, awareness of why we feel, how we feel, and the

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reactiveness that we sometimes have.

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Question why you feel, how you feel questioned, whether you are

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about to respond in context with what is really truly happening.

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Is this really matching my circumstances?

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If the answer is no, then you are playing into someone else's reality

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that they are about to create.

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And I think as compassionate witnesses, as compassionate human beings, if you

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choose to be that, then we need to be part of their solution and not feed

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into that and let them understand that they can have a moment where they

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feel vulnerable, they are triggered, but they can be safe in that moment.

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Because subconsciously they are expecting a response that's going

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to be upsetting or traumatizing.

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And this is what emotional intelligence also taught me.

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You know, this is something where this awareness, I cannot tell

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you how important that this is.

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Even if you're not interested in healing.

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This simple advice that I gave you, this can change the world.

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It really can.

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Look at politicians, look at how they're reacting to each other.

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Yeah.

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You know, they, the mommy and daddy issues out and the whole

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world's paying for their bullshit.

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I'm sorry, but that's really what's happening.

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If they had the emotional intelligence to understand, well, if this

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person does that, this, this, that is my response, you know?

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Correct.

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In relation to what's really happening.

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We know what's happening up north.

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You know, I want this, but I, so now I'm gonna, you, I'm gonna destroy you.

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You know, look what's happening there.

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We all know what I'm talking about.

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Yeah.

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That's a four year old's reaction like that, that's

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really sad that, that's tough.

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It's hard to see that, but this is what's happening and this is what's lacking.

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And now these leaders are showing people how to act and react in a moment

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when you can't have what you want.

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Oh my God.

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I know.

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It

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is, it is so true that when you see it, you can't unsee it.

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And I think, you know, you've talked, I've heard you talk before

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about this, how crucial it is to understand whether you are really

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picking up reacting from an intuition point of view or from a past trauma.

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And that is so, so tricky for some people to recognize when they haven't

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even asked themselves that question.

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I agree with you, but even I want for anyone in that moment when they find

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themselves in the moment of confusion, ask yourself, is my reaction in

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context with what's really happening?

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Yeah.

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Really, I can't, I can't emphasize that enough because that is going

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to be your break breakthrough.

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Love it.

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Absolutely love it.

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That's how you're gonna know my past is now being tapped on, or maybe I am

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playing into someone else's wounds.

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Do you wanna be part of the solution or part of the problem?

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It's a, it's probably the most important question people need to ask

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themselves now and how they're reacting.

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Cause by everyone just asking themselves that question, Catherine,

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if 7,000 people can do that and practice that on a daily basis,

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we're shifting global consciousness.

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Did you know that?

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Yeah, completely.

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And, and this is so real.

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I mean, you know, people talk about this an abstract idea, but

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it's so not, and it's actually for those scientists out there.

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Although I think there's a lot of people that are moving away

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from just trust the science.

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This is demonstratable.

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This is provable, and you can see it by the way that we interact with animals.

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I mean, my horse is my best teacher because if I'm in a mood and I'm

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denying it to myself and I go into his energy field, he's like, Get away, sort

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yourself out and then come back in.

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I had a show horse career.

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I had my own horse too.

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Oh, and I understand exactly that dynamic that you just explained.

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Yes.

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And it's very true what you just said.

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It's very true.

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I'm so lucky.

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You know, the animals, all the animals, the cats, the dogs, the

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horses, Guinea piss rabbits, they all show you in different ways.

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You know, a predator animal will reflect back to you in a completely

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different way to a prey animal.

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And in fact, I could literally talk to you forever, but I really,

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this is such amazing information.

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I really just want to finish off by, you provide so much information, not only 19

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books, if you got out there for people.

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I mean, it's an absolute must.

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I would say, you know, there's metaphysical anatomy.

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I mean, I just look at this.

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You can see how many tabs I've got in here.

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Look at it all the time.

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You're not judging.

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Yeah.

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How can people connecting with you, and you've got so many resources,

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talk us through the resources you've got available to people.

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I love it.

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So I love to also help people as much as possible.

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There's a lot of people out there who are scared to ask for

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help or who cannot afford it.

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So in my m a t membership, m mat members.com site, I have tremendous amount

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of courses that are free that can help you work through emotions, especially

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when you go to guided healing session.com.

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It will take you two steps to get to a healing session that's like half an

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hour long that can help you to meet your emotions and start to shift it.

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I have, um, you know, a lot of self-paced online courses about

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overcoming codependency, overcoming narcissistic abuse, how to overcome,

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oh, so also how to find your purpose.

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Like this is a really big one for a lot of people, especially when

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trauma knocked you off your path.

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Where do you even begin?

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How do you get back to that next month?

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We actually launch how to Release the Shadow Within, and this is

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a brilliant course and this is a certification course also for people

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who are just beginning, people who are just meeting their emotions.

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People who like it's trauma work for beginners.

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It's very gentle, gentle introduction and.

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Where people can go from there if they want to, is Intuitive Body Workshop.

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That's a one day workshop where you learn how to read the body like a book.

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It's so cool.

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You actually don't need this book to come.

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So you can just come and we're gonna show you, teach you how does the body work, how

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does this, the science of the body work.

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So that is something that interested you today.

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You're gonna absolutely love that course and what you can do after

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that, if you want to, we have the M E T level one healing course.

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So that's all the healing work and research based on this book.

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Two and a half day course.

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There we go deeper into how to release the trauma, how to release the memories,

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how to work with pain, how to work with all these aspects in the body.

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And then of course we have mat level two, which is five days is advanced now we

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really go deep into the brain chemistry.

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We go into the nervous system, we go into all of these parts and aspects

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that we heal and release, and then of course level three and four and so forth.

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So we go on with that.

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And my, my YouTube channel is a wealth of resource for all of you

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just to, you know, go through it.

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Event videos.com.

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So if you guys just wanna learn, you just wanna understand a little bit better.

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You'll see the playlists, so you can pick what kind of like stands out to you.

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And you know, Catherine also says that I'm an author of 19 books.

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So there's two sides of my personality.

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One is the Healing Evette.

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Yes.

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Of the psychosomatic, you know, Queens.

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But then I also have a fun side to me where I love to heal with humor

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because when we work with trauma, I notice there's two audiences.

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One is the people who need to have a certain experience.

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Right.

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They, they, they very into it.

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They're still going through the pain of it, but there's a lot of people

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who want to address the pain, but they need a lighter, um, approach to it.

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Absolute.

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So I actually created, I don't know if you saw my books.

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You have a look at.

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I have absolutely.

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Brilliant.

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Yeah.

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So I started this series called Unfuck Your Life.

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Yeah.

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Cause people sometimes they need to laugh and why?

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What happens when you laugh?

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You feel safe, you feel comfortable.

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Now you are in a really good state to start to look at these deep things.

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So I talked about, you know, depression, anxiety, heartbreak, and

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all these books are snippets of what actually happened to me in my life.

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So I'm applying my lowest darkest moments, but I weave wording and approaches to it.

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And you get a glimpse actually, of my psychology.

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You get a glimpse of how I see the world.

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That is how I see the world.

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And it's from a funny perspective, but also, you know, honoring and

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respecting the seriousness of it.

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So when you are in a fun state, it's easier to digest the heavy

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stuff, and that's why I wrote that.

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So for anyone that feels, I prefer to have the lighter side and

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digest the heaviness with that.

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Perfect.

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That is for you.

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Anyone else that would like to just.

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Know, I need to have this in, in my way where, you know, things are not, you know,

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said in a certain way, that's perfect too.

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I have those resources for you as well.

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And that is my, you know, these books as well, including volume three, which

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is the metaphysical anatomy technique.

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If you wanna read more about, you know, the stories.

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And my life is also included in that.

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So I love to help as many people as I possibly can.

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People like, what's your brand?

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My brand is to support as many people and bes of service to many

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people who are stuck in pain.

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Right?

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So, and that's why I branched out.

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And last year, I believe it or not, Catherine, I had a meltdown.

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I had a complete meltdown because I was so scared to launch this product line.

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Because it's not my brand, it's an offshoot of what I'm doing.

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Ma Psychosomatics, I will always do this.

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This is my main, this is Evette.

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Yeah.

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That and fuck Your Life Serious is just a side to me that needed to be expressed.

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And my guides are like Evette, you do courses about

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authenticity, but you're not.

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Yeah.

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And it was so in my face and I'm like, wow, if you can be who you are and have

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courage and, and self-worth in that, what are you showing other people?

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And I closed my eyes and I, and I, and I, and I sent the email and I said, publish.

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And, and I did it.

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I absolutely did it.

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It took me 10 years to publish that work, 10 years.

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I absolutely love it.

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All of the vet's links will be below.

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There's so much that I promise you, there's literally something for everyone.

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Your Instagram is also really, really good as well.

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So every way that you can connect with it, um, Evette, and my call to

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action is something that you sort of said, everyone asking themselves, do

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you wanna be part of the solution?

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And if you do want to be part of the solution, take a step today.

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Whichever resonates you from all the resources that Evette shared with you.

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I cannot thank you enough for this, Evette, absolutely brilliant.

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Thank you so much for being with us today.

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Any final words you want to leave anyone with?

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Just be the light that you are.

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Remember that light and just be a.

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I love it.

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Thank you so much.

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Let us know your comments below.

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Let us know your questions below and we will be keeping an on them

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and I will hopefully be persuading Evette to come back for a part two

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because we've got a lot to cover.

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Yes, love it.

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Katherine, I'm happy to help you answer the comments as well.

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If you, if you just let me know where they are, I'm happy to

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help answer people's questions.

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That's so helpful.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you for watching everyone.

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Bye.

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Thank you.

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Bye.

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Thank you so much for taking the time to listen, and if you feel inspired, please

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do share with your friends and family.

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My goal is to inspire as many people as I can to live their best lives,

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to stay curious, and to raise their consciousness and that of the collective.

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So to do this, I need to reach as many people as possible,

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and this needs your help.

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