Episode 18

#18 Values and Integrity with Matt Le Tissier

Catherine is joined by football legend Matt Le Tissier to discuss integrity, values, and being true to ourselves and our beliefs.

Key Moments:

  • [00:27] - Introduction
  • [02:05] - Meet Matt Le Tissier
  • [03:00] - The importance of resilience
  • [06:13] - Thinking for ourselves
  • [13:05] - Having the strength to speak up
  • [18:45] - Matt's biggest surprises since 2020
  • [22:32] - Matt's belief systems
  • [24:20] - Advice on moving forward
  • [33:10] - Loyalty and ambition
  • [37:50] - Was a reset needed?
  • [40:05] - The next year and beyond

Key Takeaways:

  • It is so important to trust your gut and instincts.
  • Trust yourself to make up your own mind and do your own research.
  • Research from lots of different resources, not just the big companies.
  • There is real value in being able to disagree with someone's opinions in a calm and collected way. Change can only occur when a person is ready to accept it.
  • Lead by example, stay true to your morals, ethics, and beliefs.
  • It's ok to make mistakes! We should be learning from these and taking steps toward continual self improvement. Stay humble.
  • Have compassion for yourself if you do make a mistake. We are all human.

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Transcript
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Sadly, I think we've brought

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up a generation of people who

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don't want to question things, you

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know, just do what they're told and

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obey authority.

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And they've stopped using their own

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critical thinking skills and stop

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listening to their gut and their

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instincts, because I think that's a

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big thing and I think it's been done

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deliberately.

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Hello, everyone.

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I've got a big smile on my face

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because I've just finished a really

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good interview with

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the Ex-footballer Matt Le Tissier,

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who has been really amazing,

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one of the top sports people

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who has actually been speaking out

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about what has been going

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on and most importantly, what we can

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do about it.

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We've had a lovely conversation

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about all things about

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resilience, about core values,

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about critical thinking, about

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having the strength to stand up for

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your convictions, about not

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believing everything we're told

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about how to actually

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stand up for your beliefs.

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And I think you're going to really,

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really enjoy this interview.

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Now, Matt, he's very big on Twitter.

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He's got a really great GETTR

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platform. So please

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do connect in and support Matt.

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It's really very important.

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It does make a difference and every

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voice matters, I think

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it's so, so important that we just

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keep the balance of

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keep looking at things, keep

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a critical mind tuned in with our

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intuition.

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And most importantly, as

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Matt will cover in this interview,

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make sure that we're making the most

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of each and every moment.

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Because at the end of the day,

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that's what's really important.

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Spend time with loved ones, spend

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time out in nature, spend time

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doing what you love, whatever that

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looks like for you.

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I really, really enjoyed speaking

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to Matt, and I think there's some

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really, really helpful points in

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there for everyone.

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Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

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Right.

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I am delighted to be

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here today with the amazing

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football legend Matt Le Tissier.

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Now, Matt, I'm just going to tell my

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audience; for those of you

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that are not familiar with football,

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we Brits are obsessed with our

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football.

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Matt is UK

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football legend and in my opinion,

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even more of a legend now for what

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we're going to be talking about

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today.

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Eight caps for England.

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First midfielder to reach 100

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goals in the English Premier League.

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2020 Voted best Premier

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League player of all time by

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Eurosport and until

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August 2020, a football

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pundit for soccer Saturday on Sky

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Sports. We'll talk more about that

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in a minute. Known to

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your Southampton fans as Le

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God.

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So thank you so much for joining

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us today. How you doing, Matt?

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I'm good. Thanks, Catherine.

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You?

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Really good, thank you.

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I was so delighted when you said yes

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to talking, because all my viewers

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are really passionate about

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people that have, quite frankly, got

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the balls to actually do the right

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thing, which seems to be quite

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uncommon in this day and age.

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So, let's start with that.

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I mean, obviously, having

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a football career like yours, that's

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tough playing in front of all those

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fans. That can be great

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when you're doing well,

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but not when you're not. How do you

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feel your football career has

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prepared you for having the

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guts to speak up?

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Yeah, I think it was I think it was

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very good preparation, actually.

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I think

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I could probably attribute most

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of that to my youth team coach

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in Southampton, a guy called Dave Merrington,

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who instilled

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in his in all of his players a

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mental toughness

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that was preparing you at 16 years

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of age, when I joined Southampton,

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to preparing you

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to play in the Premier League

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with seasoned old

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professionals who are

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looking to have any kind

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of advantage over you, intimidate

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you.

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And we were prepared mentally

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for a very young age, and I made my

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debut before I turned 18,

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and a lot of that I

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put down to Dave Merrington, and the

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training that we were put through

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and the way that he prepared us

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mentally was amazing.

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And so that looking back

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now, I

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think was probably one of the most

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important times of my life

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and has prepared me brilliantly for

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what's gone on these last three

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years.

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It's so important, isn't it?

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Because I think personally, that's

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what I'm saying. I mean, I'm a

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parent as well, and I'm seeing

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that unfortunately this

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politically a white culture is

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just not giving people the

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resilience that they need.

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But we can't blame it all on

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that because there's a lot of people

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of, you know, I'm the same age as

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you, as a lot of people of our age

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that aren't showing much resilience.

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Why do you think that is, Matt?

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What's missing in this, this

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personality of people around now?

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Um, I think what's

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missing is the fact that

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from a young age, we were never

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taught to think critically about

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things. I think the in the education

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system is an indoctrination system.

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When I look back now, you

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are just being prepared

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to obey authority all times,

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not questioning, do as you're told

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and remember things.

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And that's that.

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When I look back now, there's

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so much stuff

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that I should have been taught in

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school about real life that you that

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you're never taught in school.

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And sadly, I think

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we've

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brought up a generation of people

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who don't want to

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question things, you know, just do

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as they're told and obey authority.

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And they've stopped using their own

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critical thinking skills.

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Stop being a sovereign human

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being, and stop listening to their

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gut and their instincts,

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because I think that's a big thing

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that has been forgotten

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in our society.

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And I think it's been done

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deliberately, quite frankly, after

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what I've witnessed over the last

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three years.

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Yeah. Now, this leads perfectly

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into I mean...

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A two part question, Matt.

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When did you first think this is

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ridiculous? They're not telling us

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something. And are you

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feeling... You've already sort of

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implied that you are that this is a

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deliberate agenda.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's

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I think there's too much going on,

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too many coincidences for it not to

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be deliberate.

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I think you can you can wilfully

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stay awake and just brush

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it off as it's just a

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it's just a coincidence.

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You know, these people aren't really

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evil. They're just they're just not

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very good at their job.

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They're a bit thick.

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Yeah. Um, you know, all that kind

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of stuff. But there's too many

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coincidences for it to be not

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planned and not planned

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over a long period of time.

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You know, they've covered a lot of

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bases with their stuff.

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So the first time I

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was really suspicious of it

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was when I saw those videos

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come out of China, people dropping

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down in the street.

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And I just looked at those videos

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and I went that's staged.

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Mhm. That's not, that's not real.

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And that was the first time I was

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like that. Something's not quite

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right. So I'm going to go, I'm only

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going to have a look.

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I had a lot spare time on my hands

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and I decided that I was going to

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kind of look into it a little bit

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and what I started seeing I didn't

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like and I came

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across some people who

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seemed appeared to me to be quite

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knowledgeable about what was coming

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down the line.

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And I listened to them.

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I took it all in and

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I kept it at the back of my mind and

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I thought, well, okay, I've

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I've heard what they've got to say.

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Let's see how this pans out.

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And as it started to pan out,

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all these things that I was being

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told about mandatory vaccinations,

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vaccine passports, digital

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IDs, all that kind of stuff, central

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bank digital currencies was one that

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was here at about three years ago.

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All these things and I thought would

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just keep it in the back of my mind,

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see how things pan out.

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And all of a sudden these things

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started happening.

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They started talking about it in the

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mainstream media and we

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were kind of being nudged towards

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it.

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And so I was like, oh, okay.

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So they knew what they were talking

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about. They knew something was going

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on here. So this is pretty obvious

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to me that this has been planned.

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There are people that know about it.

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There are people who are trying to

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warn people about it, but they

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were just getting called conspiracy

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theorists.

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And and I'm sorry,

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but the conspiracy

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theorists are winning about 90-nil

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at the moment. If you compare them

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to the mainstream media and the

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narratives that they they try

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throwing at you. So,

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yeah, I think the term conspiracy

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theorist now as

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changed in definition, and it just

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means somebody who knows what's

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happening six months before everyone

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else.

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So true. And as we know, even

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the name conspiracy theorist was a

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CIA, you know, psyop

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to try and ridicule and

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shut that conversation down straight

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away. Now you

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have...

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If I'm right, your record

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was scoring 47 out

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of 48 penalties.

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That takes a special type of

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personality, obviously the skill,

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but also

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a real type of personality

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to actually have that calm composure

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to do that.

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How do you think that sort of helps

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you? Is that an innate personality?

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Is that something you've learned?

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Is that something that you've

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acquired a bit of both?

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I think that's something in my

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personality.

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I think.

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That whenever people ask

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me about my penalty record, they

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say, What was your penalty record so

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good?

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And I always attributed it to two

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things without really

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giving it too much thought.

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But the first one, I always said

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it was nothing to do with my

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football ability.

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The first thing that I said

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when it came to penalty taking is

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you have to want to be there.

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You have to embrace the situation.

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You have to not be intimidated by

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the situation and you have

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to look forward to taking penalties.

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That's the first thing I say when

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people ask me about my opponent.

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Then I had good technique.

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I could hit a ball pretty hard, I

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could keep it pretty accurate, all

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that stuff. But all that stuff I

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think goes out the window if you

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don't have the right mental approach

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to it. So yes, I think

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that in my personalities

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is something that has definitely

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helped over the last few years.

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What I've also found is

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I took a lot of flak early on for

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going against the against

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the mainstream narrative.

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You know, I was attacked in the

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media. I was attacked on social

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media quite viciously

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at times, but.

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I knew.

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I knew something was wrong.

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I knew this wasn't right.

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And I stood by.

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What I've done is I've been

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consistent over the last few

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years. I've stopped by what I've

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said. If I've ever made a mistake,

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I've been willing to put my hand up

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and say, Yeah, I got that one wrong,

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I apologise for that.

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And I think eventually

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it is starting to turn around.

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I've noticed a massive difference in

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the reaction that I now get on

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social media from my post,

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from going, from being 90% negative

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two and a half years ago to now

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being probably 95%

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positive and and agreeing

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with me. And that's a massive shift

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to have taken place.

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And and I believe it's because I've

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been consistent, I've been calm,

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I've been rational, and

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I've tried to back things up with

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logical explanations.

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And that's what I've that's why I've

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stood firm.

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And because I believe in what I'm

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saying. And I think as time goes on,

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I'd like to think that

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the more the time goes on, the more

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I've been vindicated in what I was

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saying two and three years ago.

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I've often thought about

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about going back to my computer.

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I go back to everything that I was

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tweeting two or three years ago

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just to look back and see

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and see the reaction and go back

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and ask those people.

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Now, the same question that I was

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asking maybe three years ago and

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seeing if their responses would be

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different.

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I said very, very good point.

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And I think you've hit on something

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really important.

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I mean, I'm very new to Twitter,

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but you are very

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calm in what you said.

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And also a lot

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of the people that have been trying

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to tell people what's happening

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and show them that there is a

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different narrative, a controlled

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narrative going on.

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It's very hard sometimes,

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particularly when you've got loved

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ones not to get very emotional about

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it, because quite frankly, this

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can be a life and death decisions,

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particularly when we're talking

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about the vaccine.

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I mean, I'm a biologist and I

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knew right from the word go that

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this was really, really dangerous.

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However, trying to convince loved

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ones that was virtually impossible.

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I'm lucky in my immediate family I

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did, but my extended family, not

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at all.

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I'm at that level of resilience.

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What's really surprised me, Matt,

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is you are, you

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know, a very, very top level

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sports person.

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So your peers, for

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me, what I see, I mean, my

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daughter's a football player.

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I see the level of discipline

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and also most top level,

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by the time they've reached your

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levels, people are very in tune.

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You can't get your level without

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being very in tune with your body,

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with your health, and really looking

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after yourself.

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So why is it

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that there's so few sports people

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that have been prepared to speak up

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about this? Because surely

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they are some of the ones that

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should be noticing more

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than anyone else or really

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questioning what they put in their

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body.

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Yeah, they should be.

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Novak Djokovic was a magnificent

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example of that.

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Somebody who has been a shining

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light in the way that he's dealt

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with things, you know, a

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real big advocate for

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bodily autonomy.

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But I think

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there has been such a massive

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psychological operation done

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on the people of this country

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that that I

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think common sense and reason has

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been busted out of

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people they're frightened.

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They're scared to speak out because

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they feel like they might lose their

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next contract.

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Yeah, they may lose their job.

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You know, you almost become a

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social pariah if you

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if you speak out against

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anything that goes against the

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government narrative.

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And it's very clever the way they've

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done it. You know, they've they've

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planned this out for a long time

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and they've covered most

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of the bases.

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And they have a plan for people like

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me who

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want to think differently about

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things, and they use

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the media to

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attack those people, discredit them,

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call them conspiracy theorists,

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tinfoil hat wearers,

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anti-vaxxers,

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but they never have an argument.

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They can't debate, you

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know. So people shout anti-vaxxer

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or at me or call me an anti-vax on

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social media.

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When I point out to them that

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actually I've had every other

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vaccine in my life apart from this

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one.

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So where...

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How does that

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make you an anti-vaxxer?

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And they have no argument for that.

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They can't they can't argue.

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So they just go, oh, you know,

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you're an anti-vaxxer, I'm not talking

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to you anymore.

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They think that by throwing these

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insults as slurs around, they can

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end the argument that they could

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take the moral high ground

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when unfortunately, what

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they're doing is just making

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themselves look not

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very intelligent, a lack of critical

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thought.

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And actually what they think is

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the moral high ground is actually

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enabling tyranny.

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Yeah. And I mean, your dad,

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you know, what is your main driver

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for doing this?

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Because even though you've got a lot

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of the skills you've developed those

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over years. Your personality

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is very resilient, which

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is something we just do not see of

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many people.

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It can still be really hard can't

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it, when you're having this not just

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for you, but for your immediate

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family.

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So what has been your driver

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that's given you the strength

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to actually keep going with all

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these insults being thrown at you

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and losing your job?

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Don't forget, you lost...

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a

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really really good job

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for sticking to your morals.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I think

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the one thing most people know about

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me is that, you

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know, I was never in football

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because it paid well.

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I played football because I love the

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sport.

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My life has never really been about

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money.

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Yes. It's nice to

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have a nice house and

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be able to go on nice holidays and

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all that kind of stuff.

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But that is not my primary driver

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in life. My primary driver in life

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is to be happy.

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Yeah, I just want to be happy in

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my life that I want.

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And I want the same for my children,

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you know? And so I think that's

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probably the main driver.

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I hate unfairness.

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I really hate, you

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know, I'm a libran and

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I need a nice balance in my life

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and I like to see things being just

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and fair.

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And unfortunately, what we've

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witnessed the last few years is

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neither been just north to the

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poorest people in our communities.

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We've seen the biggest transfer of

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wealth from the lower middle classes

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to the upper class,

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and nobody seems to want to talk

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about this. It's it's

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disgusting what's gone on.

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The mainstream media, I think,

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is the worst

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the worst thing about what's

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happened these last few years,

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they've enabled everything to be

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happening. Journalism is is in

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the gutter.

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I have lost all respect

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for institutions

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that growing up you thought you

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could trust.

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So the scientific, the medical,

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the police, government,

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all these things, I've just

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lost complete trust in these

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institutions. And it's is a really

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sad place to be in at the moment.

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And that's why I speak up, because I

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want the world to be a better place.

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I love it so, so important.

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And I think, you know, I

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know you get a little bit coy when

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people call you brave and

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everything, but people in your

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position that have an established

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reputation, you know, do

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have a lot to lose.

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And this is what for someone in my

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position that, you know, hasn't got

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that public profile.

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It's been so disappointing

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to see how easily

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people caved to pressure

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and that lack of resilience.

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And I just don't get it.

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I think I'm quite lucky that I spend

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my life surrounded by animals.

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So you have to have that level of

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intuition when you're living

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round animals.

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It's absolutely key.

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They teach us so much.

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But what have been some of the

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biggest surprises to you that you've

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learned over the last few years?

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What are some of the real big Oh my

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God moments?

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Oh, I think there's so

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many. I think the first one was kind

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of realising that

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all this was being done

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deliberately.

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There is a plan behind it

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and that people can be that evil

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that I think that was the biggest

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wow moment to me.

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And I think that's the biggest thing

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that a lot of people

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are not willing to accept.

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They're not willing to...

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Because they're good people.

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They're not willing to accept that

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other people can be quite evil

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and those people are in

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positions of power.

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Yeah. And they care not a jot

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about our health and well-being.

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No, they don't care anything.

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They care for their own wealth,

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their own power.

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And I think

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it's probably the thing to me

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was also

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one of the big moments was when I

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kind of looked into a little bit the

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amount of people that are

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trafficked.

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Child trafficking, sex trafficking

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that goes on in the world

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and doesn't...

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Barely gets a mention in the

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mainstream media.

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Yeah.

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And obviously, they are completely

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complicit in this.

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You know, we know what the BBC did

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with protecting Jemmy Savile.

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Mhm.

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And these organisations haven't

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changed.

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They're still protecting paedophiles

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and they don't,

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they don't go out of their way to

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investigate anything that

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might compromise themselves.

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And so for me, journalism in this

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country is dead, mainstream

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media, journalism is dead.

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And if I could give somebody

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one bit of advice going forward in

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your life is to is to put more trust

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in individual

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journalists, you know,

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freelance journalist who are doing

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this.

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So from the goodness of their heart,

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not being given a paycheque

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by corrupt corporations.

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Yeah. And you know, as a scientist

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myself, I've just been absolutely

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disgusted. I mean, I've been into

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natural health for a long while, and

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the corruption there has just been

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going on for as long as I can

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remember. You know, you can't tell

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people about any natural remedies

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deliberately. They take you down,

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make it very difficult.

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And now we know that all the most

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virtually all the scientific

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research is paid for by the

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people that have got

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a very nefarious agenda behind

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them.

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I think one of the biggest things

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up, one of the biggest wow moments

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for me when was when I looked into

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a little bit the history of

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vaccinations now and

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they claimed all these claims

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that we eradicated

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smallpox and polio and all that

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because the vaccines, when you

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actually look back at it

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and when you look at when

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vaccinations were introduced,

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actually those incidences of those

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diseases and actually come

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down like 90%, 95%

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already because of clean

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water and better living standards.

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And the vaccinations

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only came in right at the very end

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of that. Yet they're trying to claim

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that they were the thing that

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eradicated these diseases.

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Yet it doesn't, it doesn't

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stack up. The evidence doesn't stack

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up.

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Absolutely.

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And also, I mean, without going too

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off target, when you look at what's

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been done in Africa with the

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spread of polio by supposedly

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polio vaccines, by

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sterilising people,

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by other vaccines, it's just

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a hideous thing.

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And I really encourage people to

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start looking into it because, you

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know, as a parent and whether

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it's an animal, you've got, you

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know, the same thing.

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I work in holistic health with

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animals and, you know, the same

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thing is being done to our animals,

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which is why their lifespan is so

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much shorter now. One of the many

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reasons.

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So let's talk about your belief

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systems. So

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going back to,

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you know, your belief systems before

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and where they are now, have they

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shifted and are you looking at the

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world of spirituality, whatever you

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might want to call it, in a very

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different way now?

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Yeah, very much so.

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I've kind of been pretty

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ambivalent to it all throughout my

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life.

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You know, the spirituality side

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of things and religion.

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I kind of just got along with my

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life. I hadn't really given it too

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much thought, to be honest.

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You know, I go to weddings and I go

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to christenings and,

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you know, I occasionally

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go to midnight mass at Christmas,

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but I never really gave it

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too much thought.

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And over the last

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two or three years, it's

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something that has entered my psyche

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a lot more. And I really do believe

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we are in a fight of good against

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evil.

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And I and I do believe that

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we are both spiritual

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beings and believing

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the the energies and frequencies

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on the planet are incredibly

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important.

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And yeah, I've started to have a

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little bit of an awakening on that

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front as well.

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Yeah, I think it happens to all

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of us. You know, when you start

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looking into things, it's, you know,

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is when does this when you change

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the way you look at things, the

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things you look at change.

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And I think the one thing that's

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been very clear at

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whatever is whether it's the

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COVID pandemic, whether it's 9/11,

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whatever it is that started to make

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me look at the world differently.

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Once you start looking differently

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than all the bits of the jigsaw

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puzzle start falling into place,

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don't they.

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Yeah, definitely found that.

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Yeah.

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Um.

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In terms of...

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You know, you're still really

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looked up to by so many people

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so if you were to give...

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You've already given some advice to

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people about moving forward.

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But my feeling, I don't know how

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you're feeling about it, but we need

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to be doing a lot more

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very quickly because we're starting

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to see the 15 minute cities coming

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in.

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I don't know if you remember at the

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beginning of the

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lockdowns, they were able to fill

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shortages and look how quickly

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that grounded everyone straight

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away. So it's pretty obvious that

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the evil geniuses

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who are pulling the purse strings

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or controlling a lot of this have

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still got a lot of power in

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their hands to make things very

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difficult for the normal

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normies, as we call us.

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You know, what would be some of your

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main areas of advice that you've

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been saying to people you've been

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involved in some of the protests?

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What would you hope people are going

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to start doing now?

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Yeah, I think the protests are

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pretty important.

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So I think if you can get behind

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them whenever you can, because the

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one thing I've kind of realised

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is that

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the people in charge,

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the evil ones,

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I think what I've realised is that

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they actually need our

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consent to do most of this stuff

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and they're very clever at getting

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that by coercing and

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manipulating things to make you

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think in a certain way.

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So the one thing you can do

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and everybody kind of says,

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"Oh, what can I do? I'm just one

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person".

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But if but if one person

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does something small

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and every single person does

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something small, you'd be amazed

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how quickly that turns into

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something very big.

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So I would suggest

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boycott any companies that don't

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take cash.

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Yeah.

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First of all, I think that's a

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massive one to just cash

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is freedom.

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Secondly, if if

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somebody tries to impose a rule on

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you and it doesn't make sense to

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you. Don't go along with it.

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Don't just do it for a quiet life.

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If it makes no sense.

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Don't do it. Do not comply

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to stupid legislation,

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which is what I've done.

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I never wore a mask

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for the whole time

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and just go about your

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life in in high...

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what I call high

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vibration. So go about your life

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with a smile on your face,

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you know, let everybody see

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how you want to live your life and

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people will react to that.

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You know, so when I was

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going into shops in the

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in the height of the mask madness,

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everybody had a mask on in the shop.

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And I would walk in with no mask on

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and I would make sure I had the

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biggest smile on my face, I would

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say hello to everybody.

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I would be so nice to people

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in that shop and let them see just

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how good a life I'm having

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without my mask on.

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And I believe that

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that makes a difference to people I

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think that can make a difference to

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people in that way.

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So I

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think mass non-compliance,

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peaceful, but

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just don't don't adhere

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to stupid, stupid rules

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and your little bit of what

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you do.

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You know, go into your local

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greengrocer instead of going to a

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supermarket,

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buy local and try to support

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all the local little businesses and

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stop giving your money to the global

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corporations.

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And so I think

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there's a lot of little things like

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that that you can do, which you

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might not think makes

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a lot of difference. But I think we

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have made a huge difference.

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If you look at how we are as a

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country.

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Look at places like Canada,

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Australia and

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America, which you've still got to

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be vaccinated to get into America

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as a non-American at the moment.

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So, you know, we've

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come I think we fought a

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lot of battles and we've had some

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big victories.

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I believe

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the fight is nowhere near over.

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And I agree with you there.

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But I believe that the people

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on our side of the fight have

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a will about them, that

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they will not give in and we will

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not give in. And it will take it

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might take another few years.

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But I'm in this fight for the long

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run and I will do everything to

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stop those stupid 15

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minute cities and all the nonsense

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that is coming in with the net zero

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climate change nonsense, which

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funnily enough, that also happens to

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enrich the same people that have

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been enriched by the Covid stuff.

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So I will just keep encouraging

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people to think, keep

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encouraging people to

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look at the facts that are

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developing. Look at the way this is

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developing and look at what the

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conspiracy theorist was saying two

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or three years ago and ask yourself,

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were they right?

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I absolutely love it.

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And it's so important what you said

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there about, because a

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lot of people that I know of

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and I've been there at times as

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well, the more you find out this is

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so horrendous, what you

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do find out. I mean, going back to

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what you said about the child

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trafficking and the censorship.

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Now, before I started speaking

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out about all this a few years ago,

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I thought, wow, I believed

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the story, that it must be very

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difficult for them to catch

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paedophiles online.

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Because I thought, how do you do it?

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Then I started a YouTube channel

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and I got deleted overnight with

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God knows how many subscribers,

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because if I say one word

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like vaccine or anything like that,

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they can find you and delete you

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straight away. So then I realised

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that was a complete lie.

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Of course they've been able to stop

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this going on. They've chosen not

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to.

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But what you said about still

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living your life, so when you find

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out this stuff it's so important,

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isn't it, not to go into a spiral of

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depression and make the most of the

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time we've got in these bodies,

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particularly since you're Matt Le

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Tissier?

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Yes.

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It's a pretty good body

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to have chosen.

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Yeah.

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I think I think you're absolutely

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right. I think there was maybe

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a time in 2020

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where I was kind of got

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pretty obsessed with with

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researching and looking and

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wondering what was going on.

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And I probably at that point

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neglected my family a little bit.

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And so I had to

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kind of just reel back a

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little bit and make sure that I got

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my priorities right and make sure

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that I had a good balance in my life

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again.

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And that's so that's what I did.

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So, yes, it's not to get obsessed

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about it

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because that can be unhealthy.

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But yeah, you still got your life to

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live. You've got your family to look

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after.

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Don't let personal relationships

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go. You know, I've I've managed

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to get through all of this despite

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having a lot of

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what's been said

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was a controversial opinion

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on things.

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But I've got through this last three

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years without losing

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any of my family, without

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losing any of my friends, because we

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disagreed on on our

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opinions on COVID.

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So

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it's important in life to be able to

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disagree on things and not fall out

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about it.

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And that's it. So I've been very

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diplomatic in how far

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I've gone in conversations

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with family and friends,

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and I believe that's helped because

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it kept the channels open.

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And it's also meant that now,

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you know, I've had family and

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friends come up to me

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and actually come to me and

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apologise and said, Blimey, we're

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sorry. We thought you were a little

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bit mad a couple of years ago.

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But actually

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I think you were right, you know,

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and, and the thing at

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that point that you have to, you

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have to really fight the urge to do

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is, is you still got to

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be humble about it and don't you do

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not do the "well I told you" and

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you know I hate being that person

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says I told you so.

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I don't want to be that person.

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I don't even want to be right.

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I'd much rather be wrong about all

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this stuff.

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I would much rather be wrong

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than have what is happening going on

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now. So

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just just be careful with the

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conversations that you have with

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people. Don't fall out with your

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loved ones. Don't fall out with your

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best friends over it.

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It's

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important to keep those

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communication channels open for

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as and when these people do

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see the light.

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Yeah, I completely agree with you

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because if not, then, you know the

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great thing is, is there are so many

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solutions, you know, for people that

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have got vaccine damage and things,

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there's massive solutions out there

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right there, right now.

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But it's being made very hard

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for them to access those because, of

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course, we're not allowed to talk

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about them. And it's a little

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bit like an echo chamber because

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like today I can't put this full

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interview on YouTube.

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And so therefore, the people, you

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know, most normal people don't know

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Rumble exists, for example.

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But keeping the channels open

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is is so, so important.

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I mean, loyalty has always

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been one of your strong points.

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So throughout your football career,

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you stayed loyal, you stayed at

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Southampton, you got a little

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bit of stick on that.

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It's such a core value that we

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really need now, isn't it?

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Yeah, yeah,

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I do. It's quite funny that,

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you know, something that is

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a virtuous thing to have

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was actually something that I was

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criticised for,

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which I found a little bit odd, you

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know, that you had

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no ambition.

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Well, what I tell them that I was

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a little kid in Guernsey.

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I grew up on a tiny channel island

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three miles wide, nine miles long,

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and nobody from my island

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had ever represented England

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at football before, ever.

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Now, I grew up as a little kid

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and my ambition was to be a

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professional footballer and my

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ambition was to play for England.

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Nobody had ever done that from the

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island where I came from, and

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I did that and I achieved that.

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So for people to just sit there and

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go, Oh, you had no ambition.

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Go and tell that to a ten year old,

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Matt Le Tissier, who wanted to be a

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professional footballer and play for

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England, telling him he had no

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ambition.

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And so these people

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that have mostly thrown that

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accusation at me

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have achieved

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a fraction of what I've achieved in

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my life. And yet they sit there and

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want to go, "Oh, you had no

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ambition".

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While writing for the Daily

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Echo newspaper in Southampton.

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I would never dream of going to a

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Daily Echo reporer and go

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"you've got no ambition, you're not

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working for the Times or the

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Telegraph" or whatever.

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I would never, ever dream of doing

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that. And yet these people think

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they can sit there and go, "Oh,

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you've got no ambition".

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Whilst in in that kind

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of job. So it's,

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it's not something that I

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kind of put

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too much credence in, to

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be honest. I think

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I'm very happy

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with the way that my life panned out

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with the way I chose to live my

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life.

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That's not to say I haven't made

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mistakes. I've made mistakes.

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I've put my hand up when I was when

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I've made those mistakes and happy

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to acknowledge that.

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That sometimes gets you in trouble

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as well.

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Because, you know, when

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you when you hold your hand up in

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the knowledge that in

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this society today,

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actually apologising gets you

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nowhere because the woke mob

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will come for you.

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And you saw what happened when

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Jeremy Clarkson apologised.

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An apology is never

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enough for these nutters on the

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other side of the argument.

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And it's always more about them,

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isn't it? That's the trouble.

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But it doesn't make it any easier at

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the time. And I think

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when I look at where we are and I'd

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love your opinion on it, the whole

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point is you can't solve

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a problem from the same reality it

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was created.

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So you can't solve lies with lies.

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And this ability

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that you've got to actually,

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one, be very composed

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in the way you put things across,

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which is something I've still got

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some learning to do. I

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tend to be a little bit more

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emotional about things, but I'm

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learning. I'm learning.

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But also secondly, we've got to be

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able to say when we're wrong because

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new evidence is always coming out.

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You know, no one knows everything,

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but with

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this in mind it's so, so important.

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But leading by example,

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like you all with with truth,

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your truth, your truth, and

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constantly re-examining that because

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otherwise, surely we're just as bad

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as the evil bastards

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that are controlling us.

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This. Yeah. Yeah.

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No, no, you you have to keep an open

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mind. You have to be humble enough

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to say when you've got something

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wrong.

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And I think that's incredibly

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important.

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And going forward

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it's...

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It's difficult because people kind

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of lose hope a little bit sometimes,

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but you shouldn't lose hope.

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You should keep an eye on the bigger

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picture and realise that actually,

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I think we foiled

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a lot of what their plans were.

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You know, when you look back two

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or three years ago, you were talking

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about people like Nicola

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Sturgeon saying, oh, you know,

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Anthony Fauci saying,

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oh, you know, "we'll never go back

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to the old world.

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We'll never go back to shaking hands

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again. You know, people will never

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shake hands again".

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All that kind of stuff and nonsense,

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as you think...

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actually, most people

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are now, in

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this country, pretty much going back

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to normal.

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You know, I see people I see

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people shaking hands.

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I see people hugging each other.

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And I think we are winning this

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fight. And I think it's just a

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matter of time before we before we

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have complete victory.

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But I think we are on the way.

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So don't give up and

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keep being positive about it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Do you think, being really honest,

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with what you know now and

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continuing to find out, do you think

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as a species, as humans did

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need some sort of reset,

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not their reset, but do you think we

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were on such a trajectory

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of going off track that we needed

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something to stop us in our tracks

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and make us get back to some core

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values?

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Yeah, I do.

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I think there was there was

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definitely

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a need for an awakening.

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I think we've gotten away from

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a lot of the core values of our

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society, which is, you know,

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kept us moving forward.

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And I think we've gone away

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from those. And we've allowed...

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Because we've been and I think it's

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because we've been so tolerant

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that we've allowed

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the lunatics to take over the asylum

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because we've all been too kind of

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we didn't want to upset people.

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But actually, sometimes in life you

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do have to upset people and you have

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to stand up for what you believe in.

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And I think it's time.

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And I think you're right.

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I think this is an awakening and

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people to to stand up and be strong

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and go, "no, we're not putting up

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with that nonsense".

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You know, you've got you've got your

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your little way down the line.

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I mean,

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it started for me.

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It started with, you know, kind of

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people pushing for gay marriages and

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all that kind of stuff.

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And then the transgender stuff,

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you know, they're pushing on people

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and they basically bullying

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you into accepting that that's

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normal. And that's, you know, that's

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okay. And that's.

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Now what's to say

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that the next step along that route

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isn't for them to go?

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Yeah, paedophilia is actually

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normal. You know, having sex with

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children, that's normal.

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But they are in a lot of countries aren't they.

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That's Yeah, that's what they're

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trying to do. That's down the line.

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At some point you have to put

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your foot on the floor and

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just go, No,

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that's not normal and I'm not having

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that anymore. That is taking

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our society down a route which

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is evil and

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I believe is probably

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a little bit satanic.

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And I don't...

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I think it's time for us

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to stand up and go

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back to being spiritual

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beings and

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believing and trusting in our gut

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instincts.

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Here. Here.

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So if I ask you to say

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right, what are some of the key

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things you're hoping to see over the

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next year or so?

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What would you say?

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I would say

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what I would like to see is

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obviously people who have committed

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crimes against humanity arrested.

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That would be a big step down the

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road.

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We started to get some victories in

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the courts.

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Peter McCullagh I think the big

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victory this week

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where his medical council were

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trying to strike him off and

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we've seen last

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night I think it was the COVID

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vaccine, COVID 19

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vaccine mandates in California for

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schoolchildren to go to school have

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been rescinded or will be rescinded

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at the end of this month.

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So we keep seeing little

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victories like that.

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And we keep we have to keep pushing

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because I think we'll see more and

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more of those victories as more and

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more people see the

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commonsense.

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And the more you stand up to this

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nonsense that's going on, the more

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chance we have of doing it quicker,

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I believe we'll win this.

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I believe we'll win this because I

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think there are way more good people

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on this planet than there are evil.

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And I think eventually those good

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people will stand up.

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And I just believe we're going to

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win this. It just it's just a matter

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of time as to how quickly we

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do it.

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Yeah, I'm 100% with you.

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And I think, you know, there's

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nothing more important that for

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people to be doing with their time

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now. I think it's

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been very interesting to see how

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when you're caught in that trap of

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it's not even 9 to 5, you know, it's

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much longer hours and just literally

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caught in that hamster wheel of life

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trying to pay the bills from one

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week to another. It's very difficult

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for people to have time to look into

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all of this. And for me,

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that's where compassion is needed

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and making sure that those of us

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that have got the time to did the

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research are strong enough to

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actually share it so that

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even when people want it.

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Absolutely.

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I couldn't agree more.

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Yeah. So you personally then,

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just to finish off you

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personally, a lot of the ancient

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traditions, the Toltec traditions,

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say that, you know, all human lives

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are a tapestry, they're a work of

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art.

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Your picture is already pretty

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full with all you've achieved so

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far. What else are you looking

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to achieve personally in your life?

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That's a good question.

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I think I've been striving

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ever since I finished playing

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football to make myself

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a scratch handicapper at golf,

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and I'm pretty close to that at the

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moment. So that's

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kind of my immediate sporting

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aim. In terms of

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life, I just want to see

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my children grow up happy

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and make sure that they're

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they're all okay in life,

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you know, try and try and

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have as normal life as possible,

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you know, spend good quality time

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with my family.

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And, you know, my parents are

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approaching their eighties,

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you know, and I just want them

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to stick around a long time

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so I can I could still spend a lot

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of time with them.

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Love my mum to bits.

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They were a massive influence

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on my early life

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and they're still my heroes to this

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day. So yeah, I just want to

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be able to spend more time with

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them.

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Yeah, Unfortunately my dad...

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I'll probably cry now!

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Died in 2020, but he was a massive

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fan of yours.

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He'll be watching.

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Oh, bless.

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He'll be sending messages

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down from heaven saying, "Why didn't

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you ask him this?" So

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don't worry, Dad, I'll do that next time.

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So I just want to thank you so

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much for your time today.

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And I just want to thank you

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so much because I, you know,

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sometimes I wonder how much

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you realise how important

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the role you're playing is,

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because it's the people with

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a high profile.

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That's the society we live in,

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that whether you know your

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getting state fair or not, you are

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the ones making a difference.

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So please take all our

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thanks from us and the listeners

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I've really enjoyed talking to you

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today. Anything else?

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Any other messages you want to leave

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people with?

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I think

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it's important to realise

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that real life

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experiences are way better than

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social media stuff, so I would urge

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people not to take too much

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notice of social media.

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If I tell you...

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In the last three years,

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given that I've been fairly

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controversial, apparently, according

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to the newspapers,

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I can tell you in real life when I

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meet people face to face, I've had

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one person

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who was brave enough to shout

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something at me, call me an

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anti-vaxxer in public,

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and it was at Cheltenham Racecourse.

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I think he was a bit drunk

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and but from about ten yards

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away, you know, he was it was brave

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enough to come and say it to my face

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from about ten yards. But he shouted

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"Oh it's that anti-vaxxer".

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And, and so that

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was one person, that's the only

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person in public

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that I have had do that to me.

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I can tell you with

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my hand on my heart, I have had

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hundreds upon hundreds of

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people come up to me in

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the street, complete strangers

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and shake my hand and thank me for

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what I've been doing.

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So the ratio

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of the people in real life that

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thank me to the ones that

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want to shout at me are

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way more in my favour.

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And we are the silent majority

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and we will win this.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you so, so much, Matt.

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It's been an absolute pleasure.

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Go and enjoy that golf course on

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this lovely, lovely day.

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Will do.

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We'll have to catch up again soon.

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Thank you.

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Lovely to talk to you, no problem at all!

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I really hope you enjoyed that

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conversation.

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thing that you can take away and

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the lives of your animals.

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Catherine Edwards BSc(Hons) Biology, MBA is the founder of The Live-Love-Learn Podcast, The Catherine Edwards Academy and CatherineEdwards.life. She also works as a private Therapist offering a range of services for animals and humans, both in person and remotely anywhere in the world, seeking to improve their overall health and vitality. Her unique combination of holistic natural therapies provides each customer, of whatever species, with a wealth of information to understand the root cause of any imbalances, addressing the physical, emotional, spiritual and behavioural, and providing lasting solutions to regain balance. Catherine is passionate about expanding consciousness and sharing information, and is known for balancing science, philosophy and practical implementation.